Comments on: Kutiman Mixes YouTube

By: Ben Krieger

Ben Krieger — Thu, 08 Oct 2009 13:49:41 +0000

100% illegal. 100% artistically valid. I know what side I’m on.

By: HE

HE — Mon, 05 Oct 2009 16:26:40 +0000

Through an argument thread I silently observed on reddit this morning about this guy’s work, I was made aware of another fun mix – something more ‘pop,’ but still quite enjoyable for me:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WK3O_qZVqXk
What can I say? I like pop. I have no excuse.

By: violet

violet — Tue, 07 Apr 2009 23:12:20 +0000

“I’ve been showing these to people for the past week or so and I get annoyed with them if their minds are not blown. I think track 3 is my favorite.”

me too. be blown away dammit!!

By: Gooner14

Gooner14 — Mon, 16 Mar 2009 12:49:50 +0000

Just as techie but at the other end of the spectrum there is this virtual band called The Professional Teenagers. One guys does all
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iv1tQU0roNk

By: Faith Sonshyne

Faith Sonshyne — Mon, 16 Mar 2009 11:31:01 +0000

Hey its cool to hang here with you techy nerdy guys!~! ( I say that with love btw)
I have been listening/watching Kutiman for 2 days straight. This music is ’soulblowingly’ good for so many reasons. His respect and Love for all the people he has brought together and tweaked and made beautiful. His skill and patience with his equipment. The music itself would stand alone as brilliant even without the video. The reactions and comments show that he really has blown a lot of people away to the point of becoming evangelical (myself included).
It reaches deep inside probably because it resonates a unity that we dont usually find in the egocentric celebrity driven culture than separates and puts individuals on a pedastal!~ This really is the future! Go Kutiman!~

By: Bill

Bill — Sat, 14 Mar 2009 17:07:23 +0000

Great, great stuff here. I think he’s got a very strong fair-use argument here whether or not the original videos had a commercial intent. The purpose is clearly tranformative–ie: he’s not just making copies. He uses only small amounts of the originals and doesn’t hurt the commercial market for them. Creativity in new forms!

By: Jim

Jim — Sat, 14 Mar 2009 01:06:23 +0000

Funkilicious. I approve, and thanks for bringing to my attention.

By: Grégoire Noyelle

Grégoire Noyelle — Fri, 13 Mar 2009 21:33:44 +0000

Waou ! amazing. Thanks !

By: Tommy Weir

Tommy Weir — Fri, 13 Mar 2009 00:33:06 +0000

Thanks for the steer on this, via Merlin and then Gruber, it came to me and I’m so happy it did. I’ve passed it on to whoever I know.

Love it.

By: Richard Medek

Richard Medek — Thu, 12 Mar 2009 18:08:07 +0000

Not all of the videos used in the mash up are non-commercial. The drumming is from a Bernard Purdie instructional video and some of the other instrumental vids are commercial instructional videos as well.

I am totally down with this; I think it’s amazing from both a musical and technical standpoint. But in a related aside I am still uncomfortable how, occasionally, people who do not depend financially on their creative work profit from the work created by people who do.

That said, I don’t know where to draw the line.

By: BayTaperDotCom

BayTaperDotCom — Thu, 12 Mar 2009 16:33:16 +0000

What amazed me was how good it sounded despite what must have been incredibly horrible source quality. I mean listen to the vocal on “I’m New” from the source video, then listen to it in Kutiman’s mashup. It’s so clean, sweetened, freakin’ amazing how he touched up that source. Wow.

By: p0ps

p0ps — Thu, 12 Mar 2009 15:09:04 +0000

Besides being excited as hell and enjoying the fuk outta this amazing music and feeling like a bomb just went off, I think we need to make this legal. Whatever changes need to be made, let’s knock ‘em out!

By: Gina

Gina — Thu, 12 Mar 2009 04:58:32 +0000

Yes Nate, they won’t play for me either (Safari). I could watch the imbedded video here, though (amazing!).

By: nate

nate — Thu, 12 Mar 2009 01:26:46 +0000

http://thru-you.com/#/videos/

the videos do not play here in safari or firefox on a mac – anyone else have this problem?

By: Roman V.

Roman V. — Thu, 12 Mar 2009 00:27:23 +0000

Speaking of Andrew Keen, did you guys know he is on Twitter: http://twitter.com/ajkeen

By: Twirrim

Twirrim — Thu, 12 Mar 2009 00:15:58 +0000

Wow.

By: Jared

Jared — Wed, 11 Mar 2009 23:51:59 +0000

I fully expect to hear these songs licensed in an ad on TV or in some television drama in the background. Give this give a Grammy already. Does he need to release an actual CD to get reviews from the establishment critics (and would that matter to how awesome his music is)? This deserves to top some 2009’s best albums lists. Just wait, history will vindicate Kutiman, a la DJ Shadow/Entroducing…

By: Roman V.

Roman V. — Wed, 11 Mar 2009 22:24:38 +0000

That Keen guys sounds like an elitist douchebag. He’s the kind of person who I think would use the term “creators” to refer to people like us who write music or software – as if we are deities of song sort (ie. “the Creator”) and as if you have to be in some elite social class to be useful. The free software movement, and the free culture movement as an extension of it, is to make sure you don’t have just a few people controlling everyone else’s technology. The Internet and the Flat World (free software is one of the major causes for the flat world, btw) are pushing it all forward.

By: Velanche

Velanche — Wed, 11 Mar 2009 22:21:11 +0000

I’ve played Kutiman’s music on my weekly radio show, so I was really surprised when I heard about this project on the Buzz Out Loud podcast today.

And seeing the video….wow, nothing short of fantastic!

I’m most definitely planning to send the word, and even giving praise to the man himself.

Just ridiculous!

By: Dan Sinker

Dan Sinker — Wed, 11 Mar 2009 21:54:35 +0000

Reading your piece after Merlin Mann’s piece that links to it, I can’t help but feel like we’re beginning to FINALLY see some documentation of what this clearly is: the dawning of a new era. Count me all-in.

By: Joel

Joel — Wed, 11 Mar 2009 21:08:36 +0000

JoCo, you should set up as an Amazon Affiliate. I love the irony of an “In Your Face” affiliate bonus.

By: Joel

Joel — Wed, 11 Mar 2009 21:07:04 +0000

DPSquared, I love your opening statement.

These videos are awesome. I can barely imagine summoning the patience to make something like this in Logic, let alone in a video editor. Ridiculous. This guy… deserves a cookie of some sort.

By: sevinPackage

sevinPackage — Wed, 11 Mar 2009 19:33:41 +0000

That is 78 different kinds of badass, rolled up into a Katamari of Funk!

The theramin pushed it over the top for me.

Thanks, yet again, for making my life better through music, even if it’s not your own.

BTW, the DVD is still coming…………. I’m having ‘creative issues’ with the last version of the extras…. Soon, I hope.

By: Zach Totz

Zach Totz — Wed, 11 Mar 2009 19:11:59 +0000

This is the most awesome thing I’ve been exposed to all week so far!!!

By: DPSquared

DPSquared — Wed, 11 Mar 2009 18:37:50 +0000

Lawyer here, though not a full-time copyright practitioner: in brief, I don’t think he has much to worry about if it’s all non-commercial work he’s sampling. Fair use is a loosey-goosey balancing test, so a determination would have to be made with respect to each piece used. The single note samples probably wouldn’t be an issue at all; the complete vocal performances are more of a problem. But even if someone went to the trouble of suing him (assuming a US court has jurisdiction) and got around fair use, they’d still have to prove some financial harm to cost him any money (unless they had registered the copyright before the infringement, which is really unlikely).

The real problem would be notice and take-down procedures under the DMCA, which would deprive us of access to its awesomeness. If any one of the hundreds of sample-ees decides to write a strongly-worded letter to this guy’s ISP, they’ll probably take it off to avoid liability until he writes his own letter back saying that the material is non-infringing.

By: Colleenky

Colleenky — Wed, 11 Mar 2009 17:38:02 +0000

I’m just thinking of the time and effort involved in combing through YouTube videos, finding bits in the same key (maybe he monkeys with the pitch a bit?), and then mashing them all together in an aesthetically pleasing way. That’s quite an undertaking, and I’m duly impressed – and envious.

Regarding the legality, I think the general public plays a bit fast and loose with the term “fair use.” It’s actually pretty limited.

By: JayCruz

JayCruz — Wed, 11 Mar 2009 17:35:49 +0000

Thank you for pointing to this. This makes me excited about the future.

By: Eric Wagner

Eric Wagner — Wed, 11 Mar 2009 17:23:44 +0000

So amazing that is all I can say other than I am definitely passing this on…wow!!

By: Ed Marshall

Ed Marshall — Wed, 11 Mar 2009 15:54:29 +0000

Amazing. I’m speechless, that is undeniably good stuff, especially when you consider how it was produced.

I think Thomas is close to right; had he remixed a bunch of CC-licensed pictures on Flickr, he’d be fine. However, I can’t see anything that suggests videos uploaded to YouTube can be flagged as licensed in a particular way, so it falls back to copyright. Which means, unless he’s considering these remixes to be “fair use” (or unless the videos in question had information with them that granted the right to do what he’s doing), he might be in a bit of trouble.

On the other hand, the argument could be made that, because the videos were on YouTube, and because the remixes are hosted by YouTube, the license grant the original creators gave Google by uploading the content might apply. But that’s really a stretch.

And I’m no lawyer, I don’t even pretend to know anything about this stuff. I just love seeing art like this.

By: Nathan Wind as Cochese

Nathan Wind as Cochese — Wed, 11 Mar 2009 15:20:20 +0000

While you are true that Kutiman is avoiding commercial content and thus avoiding the wrath of the RIAA, he’s still using someone else’s intellectual property and unless the stuff is released under a Creative Commons license, what he may be doing (while supremely awesome) might not technically be on the up and up.

By: Jason

Jason — Wed, 11 Mar 2009 15:17:41 +0000

That is amazing. #3, “I’m New,” just blew me away. Sounded like early Tricky or maybe Mandalay, but then he throws in that MC in the middle section that just makes the whole track complete.

By: Triarii

Triarii — Wed, 11 Mar 2009 15:16:14 +0000

AAAAAAAAAAAH. So addicted, this stuff is fantastic.

By: Jeremy

Jeremy — Wed, 11 Mar 2009 14:48:00 +0000

I’ve been showing these to people for the past week or so and I get annoyed with them if their minds are not blown. I think track 3 is my favorite.

By: Bryan J Busch

Bryan J Busch — Wed, 11 Mar 2009 14:45:34 +0000

It’s like the drummer says: “OH! Yes.”

By: Thomas

Thomas — Wed, 11 Mar 2009 14:40:43 +0000

That’s hot like fire.

Regarding the legality of it, I’m not entirely that Kutiman is in the wrong. He seems to have avoided commercial content entirely, so the RIAA shouldn’t care. All of the component videos — and there are a lot — are listed in the More Info. That should cover attribution. And the pieces are used in such small instances that we might just be looking at fair use, particularly since this work is being presented for free and could be seen as educational at best or commentary on the component works at least.

Of course, I am not a lawyer. Just a guy who reads too much.

By: Chang

Chang — Wed, 11 Mar 2009 14:40:12 +0000

Ditto that. I would buy these anywhere and listen anytime. #2 is some astoudning dub. They’re all incredible!

By: Gary Fixler

Gary Fixler — Wed, 11 Mar 2009 14:39:17 +0000

Through an argument thread I silently observed on reddit this morning about this guy’s work, I was made aware of another fun mix – something more ‘pop,’ but still quite enjoyable for me:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WK3O_qZVqXk

What can I say? I like pop. I have no excuse.

By: Paul

Paul — Wed, 11 Mar 2009 14:35:56 +0000

What impresses me even more than the slickness of the mashup is that these are genuinely excellent songs, however they may have been created.