Delete the remark, ban them, and move on. The genuine comments you get are worth it.

-DiBBS of Lyrical Retrt

Chickenshit Cockholes, though? They’re an ass-ache that never seems to go away.

I used to let people comment freely on the videos my group and I made. Now? I watch the comments so I can delete the comments posted by obvious mean-spirited tardbots as quickly as I can. More work for me? Sure, but it’s worth it.

Once upon a time I would have considered actions like that “censorship”, and nigh on evil. Now? I consider it protecting the work everyone put into one of our silly little projects.
Still, I’d rather have to deal with those little misanthropes than not have the Internet available. It’s an evil, sure, but one I can deal with happily.

So, JC…when will you be releasing a song called “Chickenshit Cockhole”?

I’m afraid you vastly misinterpret the pejorative in question, darling. “Cockhole” is not a hole for stuffing cocks into. “Cockhole” is the hole in the cock. You know the one that pee comes out of? Yup, that one.

Otherwise, kudos.

go fail more,alongside your crew here thiking they got some *upper hand* in this,they’re tools just like you.

I totally agree. As everyone sane, I much prefer people encouraging, trusting and giving advices and love than full-hate morons wanting to trash good-willing people.

and yes, it needs strong to expose him/herself in front of people.

*winks*

We should nail this to the front door of the ‘web so you have to read it before you come in:

“to make someone you’ve never met feel bad just because they made an amateur fan video about something they really like? Where’s your thing that you made and put online…”

Oh, and also: the web should have a front door.

Cockholes and haters hate Still Alive oh

All performers take their lumps, it’s part of being a performer. Just opening your mouth to sing puts you out there, you could have done it alone at home, but then who would have enjoyed it?

I am glad you did it, and she did as well. Haters give sass and as bad as that is, without the risk of defeat the thrill of success would be less gratifying I think.

You know (or don’t), she’s rather infamous in several places (forums, blogging communities, etc) and all that spontaenously combusted last night it seems. Don’t go falling in love so quickly when you don’t know her.

It surprised me how many people got involved. But I suppose the Portal demographic is very far reaching…

Therefore, what you need to do is simply delete the abusive post(s) with no further comment. And ban the abusive poster(s), if you can. When they realize they aren’t getting any attention in response to their provocations (and believe me, a bunch of outraged responses are *exactly* what they are hoping for), they will get bored and go find some other forum to poison.

-Jeremy

The next person to comment after that comment is an even bigger chicken-shit cockhole!

Same goes for the person after that!

and so on…

and so on..

and so on…

I’m almost sahy to post my cover of Still Alive online somewhere … then again, I never was much one to care about criticism that isn’t constructive.

(I speak for all of us.)

I’m just saying, is all.

BTW, there’s GOTTA be a song in all this somewhere, no?

Free to be stupid. Yahoo! Clearly these folks are “challenged” but why give their “thoughts” any credibility at all?

Love and forgive the cock-hole!

They need our compassion more than anything. The best way to show that is to ignore them. Sticking up for her is great but let’s ignore the thought deprived haters. They are expressing themselves the best way that they know how…. and deserve our understanding for this lack- of- capacity -mode that they operate in daily. Can you imagine going through life that way? Poor things… advertising this lack of mental stability on the internet is just plain sad. A cry for help perhaps?
Anyway, I blame frivolous law suits for manipulating our genetic evolution. If you really think it is a good idea to use a hair dryer in the bath tub… by all means… be my guest.

A line for the new song…..”I like to use my hair dryer in the bath tub…”

I find your “cockhole” neither undermining nor ideologically inconsistent. You directed your comment to an abstract group of anonymous people: “haters.” The haters directed their comments at a particular individual — one with feelings whom they single out to hurt.

That’s the point. Right?

You: “[S]hame on those of you who think these people don’t have the right to express their opinions however they wish on a public forum.”

Okay, so now you purport to deny this blog’s author the right to express his? Unless I misinterpret things, he’s also the one *footing the bill* to give you a forum to express yours. Not a public one, mind you. His own privately funded space. A space where he has neither edited the comments he finds offensive nor sealed the thread.

Please explain again — what separates you from the rest of us poor hypocrites? I’m missing the distinction somehow.

“I h8 u noob” is not acceptable. “I hate this because (considered reason X) (considered reason Y) (considered reason Z)” should be acceptable anywhere.

just my $0.02,

rob t.

I think negative criticism deserves protection but name calling serves no purpose. An added bonus to removing such comments is that nothing would drive their owners nuts more than not having a forum to spill their bile on.

You’ve put into words more eloquently than I could something I’ve been steaming about recently too. This culture of meanness on the Internet is probably no different than any previous generation’s bullying, except now it’s so much easier.

Thanks for standing up and saying something about this.

From what I’ve observed, it is the people who are creating these original creations and participating online in these sorts of forums that are generally the most fun and clever individuals. These are the kind of people who I would want as my friends because I know that we would have a good time. On the other hand, those who are posting negative messages toward material that someone else created for fun, well these jerks are usually just full of anger and sadness and are looking for some way to vent it. In the process, they typically take other people down with them. One shouldn’t even bother giving these people the time of day as they are never worth it.

Anyways, that’s my two cents.

What JC said, and I agree with him, is that those who post negative comments without any redeeming critical value (negative criticism, when constructive, is good for the creator, though not always fun to receive, as I know personally) are wasting their time, the time of others, and are frankly, stupid. That their comments contribute nothing to the discussion/interpretation of the artist’s work that is presumably ongoing, and simply discourages the creator from attempting to make more things.

Regardless of what you may think of an artist’s work, as long as their work is not personally offense (say a offensive video about your or your mom . . . or a glorification of nazi pogroms, which I at least would find rather offense), then you probably don’t like it because their piece of art simply doesn’t speak to you. In that case, you should either let the artist know that, and try to tell them what you would find more appealing, or simply don’t view the work. I do that a lot. There’s a lot of art I don’t appreciate, and so I simply ignore it. It’s not like someone is going to force you to go to you tube and watch a certain video. You have that choice.

Now, on to what you’re saying. Your ‘argument’ basically amounts to “you should take it. And JC is an attention whore and that’s why he wrote this”. I disagree. You should take criticism if it is constructive. Simple negative thoughts . . . well, you’ll get those, and have to deal with them, but especially for an amateur producer, or someone just starting out, those can be very damaging.

And they contribute nothing useful. There’s no need for them, and their purpose is not intended to contribute to the artist’s work or help them in their personal and artistic growth, but rather to cause emotional harm to the artist. And that isn’t, in my mind, acceptable. I’ll take any constructive criticism you want throw my way (I know that my work isn’t anywhere near perfect), but if you’re just out to hurt me . . . I don’t need to hear that. No one does, and that’s what JC is saying.

(It is worth noting that if you make a free speech argument here, and say that people can say what they want . . . yes. But, while I’m not a constitutional scholar, I can promise you that if you stood outside my house 24/7, on the public sidewalk, and shouted insults at me, I could get you dealt with under law. There’s free speech, and then there’s harassment, and the law has always recognized a line between those . . . not to mention the accountability inherent in most forms of speech prior to the internet)

As for him making this blog post to be an attention whore and get people to think he’s great . . . I think you’re wrong there as well. He didn’t promote the blog post to anyone (I assume), he just made it, and spoke out in defense of a fellow artist, and someone who was using his works (making it more pertinent), making clear and solid points. Others happened to agree with him, and so linked it. The purpose was to address the issue, and let those who noticed know his concern, and agree or disagree as they would (notice that your comments, for example, haven’t been deleted).

And that is all the time I’m going to dignify your responses with.

Thanks for saying it.

It’s fine for the haters to not like something, but another thing entirely for them to savage someone for doing something that they themselves have no idea how to do, nor the creativity to even think of it.

Myself and a lot of people I know catch the same crap sandwich when we post our costumes and inventions to the net and get the predictable peppering of canned comments from the haters.

I think it’s related that I absolutely loathe programs like American Idol; they exist only to mock people willing to try. They’re fueled by what has apparently become a world-wide obsession with the schadenfreude of beating down the people willing to put themselves out there. Nothing good can come of this.